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I have this theory about television, specifically popular television drama. Shows that are wildly popular -- not cult programs, but seriously nationwide popular -- have a thing that they give us. You go back to the same restaurant twice a month because you expect a certain dish or a certain flavor, right, so what keeps people coming back? What is the quality it feeds? What it is giving up in favor of keeping that flavor?

Take Lost: the emotionless brainteaser factor, I think. I said once that Battlestar was the opposite of 24 because on that show, all the people act like robots and you don't care about their feelings, while with BSG, all the robots act like people and you do. I think it's true about Lost, too: a drama for the Asperger's generation, in which social cues and emotional responses don't really matter (although every show will have its shippers and hated/beloved characters) as long as you've got a problem to solve. Most popular sentiments of disillusionment with Lost have to do with the idea that they don't know where it's going, secretly, and that they're making it up as they go, which speaks to the feeling that the show is not providing the necessary positive reinforcement to say, yes, you're continuing to figure it all out, here's another clue. Press the lever and get a cookie.

Or, and this is key to the question I'm asking you today, take The West Wing. The one thing you could count on with that show was a feeling of hope. Pride, and the lush sharp joy of the language, but mostly hope, and pride. The concept that everything is going to be okay can be revolutionary, when things are not okay and seem to be getting worse. I think that TWW would do pretty well today, when we're all kind of caught in this Obama wave of trying to convince each other to have hope and not feel gay about it.

I mean, Buffy was a cult show, but it always grows in popularity all the time. I'm not sure what you get from that show week-to-week, but there's a disillusionment again in the sixth and seventh seasons that I think stems from Buffy herself becoming fallible. It's brilliant, and necessary, but in terms of the overall popularity of the show, I think that was the killer. One of the reasons the Christ myth is such a big deal is that we go through his life story on a constant basis: glory, betrayal, complete dismemberment. It's the reason every hero goes to the underworld, because it's telling our stories back to us. So when Buffy starts fucking up, as she does throughout the last two seasons, that's a lot like us fucking up, and who wants to watch that? Lots of people, but not as many.


So I'm going to be recapping Generation Kill for TWoP in a couple of weeks. Reason number one is that I asked for it because I liked the title. Reason number two I'm actually excited is that I've loved military stuff since I was a kid; it's one of the reasons I get so immersed in BSG when I'm writing about it. It's a headspace that can be hard to get into, for some, but it's something that makes a lot of sense to me. A lot of my most avid readers -- and thus avid fans of the show itself -- are ex-military. The few times I've gone to BSG presentations at the Alamo, you can see them in the audience, these silver brush-cut guys that show up alone, at midnight, and leave alone two hours later. That's love. And a lot of them have reached out to me, all through BSG and now to say thanks for writing about GK. I thought it was surprising for awhile, but now I think I get it.

Whenever anybody says something is "just good," with no qualifications or explanations, that's a flag that you're dealing with people's actual inside-the-head stuff. That hope, or that BrainAge-disguised-as-TV, or that quasifeminist messianic superhero.

Why do I like The West Wing? Because it's awesome. Why Buffy or BSG (or Gossip Girl)? Shut up, they'll say: it's because it's so great. What else do you need to know?


I'm reading the book GK is based on, and the books by and about the guys the story is about. But I never watched The Wire, although of course it was the first thing on my syllabus... And now I'm not sure if I should.

If it's emotionless like Lost, I'm not interested ... Five seasons of brilliant and hard-hitting gritty municipal politics starring scarred men with hideous underbellies. The Sopranos started boring me well before you might think. But if it's a West Wing... You see what I'm saying?

So to the Wire viewers reading this: what is the dominant theme of the show? What key is it written in? I don't care how intricate or realistic it is, I just want to know: are they robots or are they people? What is the nutritive thing that keeps people coming back to the show?

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On July 2nd, 2008 05:35 pm (UTC), [info]cucumbersarnies commented:
The Wire = not robots. One of the things I love about the show is that it gives equal weight to all the characters- that you can sense a life beyond the page for them, and that though it is angry at the world, and moralistic, it's not angry or judgemental towards it's characters.
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On July 2nd, 2008 05:46 pm (UTC), [info]mostlikely2 replied:
"Angry at the world" and "moralistic" are two of my favorite things! Thanks!
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On July 2nd, 2008 06:01 pm (UTC), [info]spectralbovine replied:
I've never thought of the show as being moralistic, I guess because, like you said, it's not judgmental toward its characters. I think the show may recognize that such things as morals exist, but it doesn't really care whether people have them or not.

It's very angry at the world, though. So very angry.

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On July 2nd, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC), [info]spectralbovine commented:
I am just about to start the fifth season of The Wire, Jacob! A post will be forthcoming.

For my money, the theme of the show is "America is broken." I haven't seen The West Wing, so I don't know how it scores on the Hope Meter, but I don't think it's overtly hopeful, per se, although there are glimmers here and there. But it's definitely not emotionless; in fact, it's one of the more emotionally engaging shows I've watched because they are people, not robots. Very very much people. So much people. These are human beings, through and through.

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On July 2nd, 2008 06:00 pm (UTC), [info]mostlikely2 replied:
"America is broken" is also one of my favorite things in the world. This show is sounding awesomer and awesomer.
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On July 2nd, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC), [info]nicole_anell commented:
Yes, they're people inside a world that dehumanizes people at every level. That is what I take away from The Wire -- the system is fucked (and it's not getting fixed because the more power you have to fix it, the less you care to) and there are no heroes, but almost everyone has a part of them that's decent and real.

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On July 2nd, 2008 06:30 pm (UTC), [info]meegup commented:
ive never seen the wire, so i cant speak to that.

but i was moved to comment since you mentioned my FAR AND AWAY favorite television shows of all time (lost and sopranos).
i think what i like about both of them is the attention to detail.
they are both shows that really reward you for paying attention and tracing detail. (cf. lostpedia)
lost by figuring out a puzzle, and sopranos usually by (increasingly inside the more microscopic you go) jokes.

i watch bsg and i "enjoy" it, but it does tend to break down pretty quickly under scrutiny.
for example, i read somewhere that the identities of the final FOUR, were decided upon well into third season filming.
this drove me insane, and (probably because im obsessive and nerdy) cheapened the experience for me

it was also striking to see lost cast as cold or emotionless, as in a few episodes at the end of this season that just finished, there were, for me, EXTREMELY powerful and wrenching emotional pinnacles reached.

not that im seeking out a debate or anything, i was just pulled into the conversation by these points

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On July 2nd, 2008 06:39 pm (UTC), [info]mostlikely2 replied:
Well, it's probably a situation where your point of entry/contact colors where you go with it. I find the emotional high points of Lost to be really unengaging, because I approach the show as a paint-by-numbers exercise for the unused 90% of nerd brains, and BSG's complete disinterest in same doesn't bother me at all -- but I know plenty of people who find BSG unemotional, whereas it gets me in an extremely personal place. I mean, I totally know what you're saying -- part of my job involves reading page after page of those complaints and discussions, and I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't try to incorporate at least awareness of those other points of view.

Maybe it's a job or writer thing, actually -- I don't really watch from the perspective of a consumer anymore, because it's like watching a stage magician. At some point you have a choice:you can be sad because you know how they did the trick, or you can make watching them do the tricks the entertainment, rather than being surprised. It gets me into trouble with the readers sometimes.

Like, I know the story that Lost is telling, and I know that the characters are all expendable and have the emotional importance to the overall plots, or I know the story BSG is telling, so I don't care about the big "reveals" and "secrets" and huge plotlines and whatever, because they're still approaching the endpoint at a constant rate.

Making shit up, whether it's Lost or BSG, doesn't really bug me, because that's what storytelling is: making shit up. But I think any show -- to soothe the tension between the fact that it's a story with a beginning middle and end, but also a story that's being told sequentially, as it's being written -- has to at least give the appearance of knowing WTF it's doing, even if that runs counter to actual storytelling as a process.

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On July 2nd, 2008 06:49 pm (UTC), [info]pastels_badge commented:
Everybody else has already covered a lot of the things I like about The Wire, like the political critique, the complexity, the interlocking themes, the ensemblyness of the characters, but I will also point out that I like how the show features quite a few gay and lesbian characters and one that's basically genderqueer, and these things aren't treated as some huge weird thing. I do wish that Kima's philandering phase would be captured with the same detail as McNulty's, but for the most part the show does a really good job of representing queerness without making a fuss about it.
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On July 2nd, 2008 06:52 pm (UTC), [info]mostlikely2 replied:
I didn't even know there were female characters, much less any sexuality issues at all.

I thought it was about a respectable drug dealer named Omar, the labor class, the F word, and like ... the fourth estate. That's literally all I know about the entire show.

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On July 2nd, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC), [info]spectralbovine replied:
one that's basically genderqueer
Really? Is that in season 5? I don't think I know who you mean.
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On July 2nd, 2008 07:18 pm (UTC), [info]calliope_nyc commented:
I thought BSG was the greatest show on television - until I saw "The Wire." I remember one of your BSG posts from season three; you had been complaining about the poor quality of a few episodes and I guess some readers were saying that even the best shows have some off moments. And you said no, there's no excuse for that, that a great show should always be great - and that's The Wire. That show never had a weak episode, not once. Some people weren't so thrilled with Season 2, and there were some legitimate complaints about the newspaper story in Season 5, but those were about plot, not execution. The acting is superb and the character development makes, dare I say, even BSG pale by comparison. And I love BSG.

In all seriousness, this show makes you love characters you should hate, gives nuance to even the worst bad guys, and never pretends that the good guys are always good while at the same time letting humanity shine through at all times. But the most beautiful thing about it, I think, is that although (like BSG at its best) "The Wire" is pretty searing and heartbreaking social commentary, it's also a love story about Baltimore. Really, you will love it.

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On July 2nd, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC), [info]spectralbovine replied:
That show never had a weak episode, not once.
Yeah, I always say the show doesn't have a bad episode because it can't. It's not really about "episodes." It's just a very long story presented in episode-size chunks. And since you're only as strong as your weakest link, every episode maintains a standard of consistent quality. Plus, there is so much going on that you can never point to a bad "episode." Maybe some scenes that didn't work as well, but that's it.

In all seriousness, this show makes you love characters you should hate, gives nuance to even the worst bad guys, and never pretends that the good guys are always good while at the same time letting humanity shine through at all times.
Well put.
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On July 2nd, 2008 08:04 pm (UTC), [info]texasannie commented:
No robots in Baltimore
The characters on The Wire definitely aren't robots, although plenty of them probably wish they could be. The show always gave me the sense that they were exploring and exposing a lot of the problems in American society, but not in a hopeless way. It's more like an intervention -- "When I see you doing this, it makes me feel like this, and I just know you're better than this" -- than an enraged "fuck it, we don't deserve to live." And no, it never had that "woo, we're super hardcore cable dudes!" vibe either.

"Whenever anybody says something is "just good," with no qualifications or explanations, that's a flag that you're dealing with people's actual inside-the-head stuff."

That's how Farscape is for me. This may mean I'm nuts, but that show is what the inside of my head looks like all the time. Even moreso than with Buffy, and I didn't know that was physically possible.

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On July 2nd, 2008 08:16 pm (UTC), [info]mostlikely2 replied:
Re: No robots in Baltimore
Assume agreement, obviously, on the in-the-head stuff. I could not, given ten years, explain the allure of Farscape beyond the "utopian civics lesson" : "anonymous sex in a sewer" :: Star Trek : Farscape thing.
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On July 2nd, 2008 08:42 pm (UTC), [info]kdiddy commented:
The Wire is incredible. I really can't express how deeply amazing it is as both a work of art and an exploration of America. and there are no robots. for what it's worth, I've been weeping at the end of many episodes, but laughing and cheering along with the characters when they've experienced rare moments of triumph. watch it. you will not regret it.
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On July 2nd, 2008 11:13 pm (UTC), [info]chicating replied:
You know that cliche', "You'll laugh, you'll cry," and mostly it's all bullshit? On The Wire, it's true, and not just because I think Jimmy McNutty, uh, McNulty, is so hot I wrote an essay about it.
Also, I love that native Baltimorons can make "now" a word with three sounds in it. And Wendell Pearce. And Stringer Bell...aw hell,{{{Wireverse Balmer}}}
I think Ms. pearson, in addition to being a for-real stick-up girl who really made her bones as a girl, is butch, rather than tranny.
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On July 3rd, 2008 04:07 am (UTC), [info]mad_with_july commented:
Here's the Thing about The Wire: It's about all the shit we just tolerate being fucked up and don't even THINK about anymore. It's about ... okay, I used to work with this guy, and our computers would break down, and the tech guy would come in and blah blah blah on about what was wrong and why it was wrong, like explaining it all to us. And this guy I worked with, inevitably, would stand up in the middle of one of these speeches and yell "FIX IT!" That's what The Wire is. FIX IT. The schools, the neighborhoods we throw away as "the ghetto" and wall ourselves off from and don't even bother about, the places we all walk around and pretend aren't there anymore. I know a lot of pissy little bitter people who hated the newspaper season, but it sang to me like the inside of my own head, the last couple years I was in newspapers, everybody blah blah blahing on about why this is the way it is, and nobody FIXING IT.

It's the kind of work, The Wire, that shouts at you that we are better than what we allow ourselves to be.

A.

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On July 3rd, 2008 04:09 am (UTC), [info]mad_with_july replied:
Also, David Simon is the coolest guy on the planet, just because of this:

http://tinyurl.com/3spuzq

A.

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On July 3rd, 2008 04:35 am (UTC), [info]turandot commented:
I'd say watch it. What I like about the show is that it does not take sides, but it clearly cares about the characters. If there is a moral center at all, it resides with Bubs, a recurring but not major character. He's got the classic outsider looking in perspective: he's not a cop, he's not a dealer. He's a junkie, which for better or worse means that he takes abuse from all sides. In five years, he tries to quit using twice, one time he fails, the next he succeeds. In some ways, staying drug-free is actually tougher for him, but as the series goes on, he finds more and more reasons to try...

The message is that inner cities are basically war zones, and not one is safe, and that the things that politicians and other structures do to fix things in reality might contribute to the harm. It breaks your heart, certainly, and not in artificial ways like Lost does (i.e. killing off characters left and right), but in a genuine way. I know that at the End of Season 4, which is about inner city school (which is where I'd like to teach, someday) I was heartbroken for the kid characters that were featured, as the writers spend the whole season making us care about these new characters, and making the viewers hope that not all of them are doomed to repeat their parents' mistakes, but then it just takes your hope away but without manipulating the outcome. It's definitely a balance that is missing from many TV shows, including BSG.

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On July 3rd, 2008 05:20 am (UTC), [info]newpackage.wordpress.com commented:
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Jacob, I'm going to post your inquiry on my group Wire blog and request that our posters answer you. One of our favorite posters is David Simon hissownself so maybe you'll get lucky.

I doubt it will happen but even so, The Wire not robots. It's America. This much I'll say up front. And if you reall want to go deep, watch Homicide Life on the The Streets. Those are the roots.

Athenae emailed me you were recapping Generation Kil and I am thrilled. I can't wait to see your stuff.

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On July 3rd, 2008 09:19 am (UTC), [info]dudepower1982 commented:
Emotionless is the last word I'd use to describe Lost...and Buffy seemed to become fallible way back in Season 4 (its worst, in my opinion).
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On July 3rd, 2008 03:20 pm (UTC), [info]mybloodyself commented:
So many comments, not going to read them all, so forgive me if I'm repeating. In my opinion, The Wire is one of the best shows ever produced for television. The characters are incredibly written. It is very easy to imagine that they are real people going about their lives in Baltimore. You see the good and bad in both the good and the bad (if that makes sense). Well worth the time invested in watching.
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On July 4th, 2008 02:54 am (UTC), [info]zulkey commented:
I think "The Wire" is like "Law and Order" but with all the little niceties taken out. And it feels good to watch something that pays off with devoation. And I love that there are hardly any bad guys. Everyone's a good guy sometimes.

I think the dominant theme is the machine of a city.

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On July 8th, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC), [info]septicemic commented:
I've only seen the first season, so standard disclaimers apply, but:

For me, The Wire is about forgotten people, helpless people, people nobody looks at; and how America, despite the hype about the tempest-tost homeless, doesn't save them. The point is to be angry. The point is what D'Angelo does at the end of "Cleaning Up": shouting the name of a thrown-away child, even after everyone else has left the room.

The titular wire is hooked up to a pay phone, but it's also a wire we're walking, and we think there's a net somewhere down below, but there isn't. That's what it's about.

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